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Reply shade-of-black, December 18th, 2007, 11:15 pm

A sexism villan would be funny

Reply Hogrock, December 19th, 2007, 1:41 am

Indeed, a villain named Sexism seems wondrous.

Reply biff_larken, December 19th, 2007, 6:40 am

Wonderful as always.

Reply Charlie, December 19th, 2007, 6:43 am

I love that Femininja. Sexually. Which would probably get me a shuriken to the face, but oh well.

Reply ORYX, December 19th, 2007, 9:07 am

Ahem... Not to put anything down. It's a great page visually but in the 6th panel she only has 4 fingers, the hand looks a little wonky. Much love for the entire comic, but you can do better.

Reply ORYX, December 19th, 2007, 9:39 am

Some criticism from a big fan I love your work, and I'd say I have a pretty good sense of humour. I think that I understand what you’re going for with the ninja... However a word of caution I think you’re falling short. There are all sorts of feminism out there as your source likely mentioned, your campy portrayal of this ninja feminist borders on insulting. The ambiguity of her fighting “sexism” leads me to ask “what’s she really doing in the plot?” Are you going to put your ink where your mouth is and show her fighting sexism or are you going to mock, by creating a sexism villain? Making her just another curvy crime fighter not to be taken seriously at all and feeding into all the male stereotypes rampant in the graphic novel industry. I love this comic and I’d like to see someone mocking real sexism, perhaps I’ve jumped the gun a little but the objectification from your readers makes me wonder if they’re getting the point and consequently if you have.

Reply punk4life4, December 19th, 2007, 2:32 pm

I'm trying to picture what sexism would dress like, Im consider some weightlifter, with sex written across their chest?
Or....
Hmm...
Wait I got it,
A guy in his 20s, with shaggy black hair, a sweat band across his forhead, a wife beater, muscular, brass knuckles, a cape that says "Im the only [for] "sex"" tattered jeans, really old sneakers and a hitler mustache.
with a probably a bit of a goatie (sp?) and I feel like he should have a side kick, like, well not even a side kick more of an animal, like a pit bull, with a studded collar that just grunts a lot.
I dunno I was having fun coming up with a really obviouse image, ignore me.
anywho still love Zom-ben.

Reply SpasticAntelope, December 19th, 2007, 3:15 pm

ORYX is wrong, the hand in panel six is fine. I can see the pinky bent down and it makes me wonder if he really looked at the hand, or just glanced before making his criticism.

I also think that your "campy" portrayal of Femininja is fine, since this comic is pretty silly (but still awesome) to begin with. If you were doing a very serious comic I might agree with him, but for what you're doing it works.

Reply Stick_Violence, December 19th, 2007, 3:44 pm

Am I the only one Am I the only one who saw the whole sexism thing as just a joke?

It'd be funny for him to run into a villin like that but common people it's called comedy

Reply dangerface, December 19th, 2007, 4:26 pm

shade-of-black, Hogrock, ORYX, > Sexism, the villain, was merely a punchline and I have no intention of making it into a character.

Charlie> It probably would... and no doubt will.

ORYX> First: Antelope is right about the hand. The pinky is pointing down, however I agree whole-heartedly that it's wonky. Other than that and the fact that I forgot the scabbard of her sword in panel 5, and her mask drawstrings in both panels five and six, I personally feel it's a pretty strong page, artistically.

Next: Your candor on this matter is appreciated, and the last thing I want to do with this character is make her a mockery to feminists. However. This comic is above all things a comedy, and her male counterparts don't completely understand feminism, so they will crack jokes at her, and at times at the expense of her vigilante gimmick. As she will often crack jokes at the expense of theirs. The punchline on THIS page, is not meant to be mocking feminists, or making light of sexism, but rather poking fun at how ridiculous this comic already is. The punchline originally planned for this page WAS a direct stab at feminism, and hopefully I chose the better gag. Also, if you read the character as an important feminist role model, you're looking too much into this. She was created based on the fact that I found her name funny, after all. Hopefully she'll bring an interesting, and perhaps at times thought provoking perspective to this wacky little universe, but this IS just a wacky little universe in which she is a wacky little character.

punk4life4> You've put way too much thought into this.

SpasticAntelope> As you may have surmised, that's pretty much how I feel about the character. Perhaps if there were a Femininja spin-off series, then we could lay down some phat feminist theory.

Stick_Violence> I think you were, oddly enough.

Reply Hogrock, December 19th, 2007, 11:14 pm

I can still dream.

Reply ORYX, December 20th, 2007, 11:38 am

Thanks for pointing out the finger, I perceived it's redering as a very funky handwrap, though I can make it out now.

Face of danger: I appreciate your taking my comments as they were meant, constructively and not as an attack. I understand that you're not looking to upset anyone and I appreciate that and was aware that this was the case when I posted. You're conscious of the issues and I know you'll use the details well to make it funny, thanks for taking my comments into consideration so open mindedly. It's appreciated :) Happy Holidays to you!

Reply dangerface, December 20th, 2007, 1:45 pm

ORYX: And to you.

...AND to ALL of you! If I don't have the next page done by this Sunday, don't expect to see it until the following Sunday, as I will be taking holiday from drawing (since I can't get a holiday from my paying job).

Reply Keri Clothesline (Guest), December 30th, 2007, 7:17 pm

Good luck with this, mister. You’re on your own.

Reply TheLynch, January 7th, 2008, 9:10 am

I loved the banter in the bottom panels. Very witty.
Not only is the script well put together, but the dialogue is really good too, Ben.

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